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		<title>Comment on Death and Taxes &#8230; next Politics and a Pint (19 Apr 2009) by Society for Medical Decision Making Convention 2009 &#8211; a report &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</title>
		<link>http://politicsandapint.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/death-and-taxes-next-politics-and-a-pint-19-apr-2009/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Society for Medical Decision Making Convention 2009 &#8211; a report &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at P&amp;aP might remember earlier this year when we talked about &#8220;Death and taxes&#8221; .  Among the topics dipped into at that time were medical decision making, cost-benefit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at P&amp;aP might remember earlier this year when we talked about &#8220;Death and taxes&#8221; .  Among the topics dipped into at that time were medical decision making, cost-benefit [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Annexation redux &#8230; plans are afoot &#8211; next P &amp; a P &#8211; 25 Jan 2009 by BruceWMorlan</title>
		<link>http://politicsandapint.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/annexation-redux-plans-are-afoot-next-p-a-p-25-jan-2009/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>BruceWMorlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of questions come to mind. IF we are going to bow to the &quot;&lt;strong&gt;to big to fail&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; mantra, then we should start NOW to decide whether it makes sound, bottom line, sense for Northfield to invite in another 475 acres of industrial. We need to know

&lt;strong&gt;* Shooting ourselves in the foot:&lt;/strong&gt; How much unrented office space is there in Northfield already? Is this going to become a blighted unfinished industrial park? Are we asking existing capacity to subsidize the very competition that will destroy them (think Target and the downtown).
&lt;strong&gt;* Shooting the taxpayers in the foot:&lt;/strong&gt; How much capacity does the current infrastructure have available to allocate to a new office and industrial park? What is the projected use of those resources?

&lt;strong&gt; ** Safety center:&lt;/strong&gt; Emergency services and the problem the rail line already represents for supporting new expansion south of 19 and west of the blocking railline? What is the current response time to StOlaf? Do we already have a problem? Would going north to get across the railroad, then south to get to Armstrong be unsupportable? Malt-O-Meal is almost as far and we have not worried about it (at least not publically).
&lt;strong&gt; ** Utilities:&lt;/strong&gt; Sewer treatment, water and electricity/gas. Offices and industrial (at least transmodal sites and warehouses) are usually low consumers of water and sewer. Electricity is magic, we don&#039;t even ASK where it is coming from. And gas, well we don&#039;t have to worry about transiting the Ukraine like Europe does (how&#039;s that for a catchy phrase? &quot;&lt;em&gt;Northfield, where your natural gas does not transit from unstable powers through former satellites!&lt;/em&gt;&quot;)

&lt;strong&gt;* Protecting our legacy:&lt;/strong&gt; How much leverage do we have to ensure that the creek is protected? Do we have a temperature-turbidity-phosphorous inventory and can we ensure that the new development will maintain or improve on that situation?

Lots of questions, we can start now to look for the city and the land owner&#039;s answers, and build a good case for or against the annexation. Tom Neuville (when he was a state senator) assured me that just because a city annexes land, they are not promising to deliver services, but it is much easier (I would contend) to leave them rural and avoid the question. 

Bring your ideas, we may talk about setting up our very own website for this discussion ...&lt;code&gt;&lt;/code&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of questions come to mind. IF we are going to bow to the &#8220;<strong>to big to fail</strong>&#8221; mantra, then we should start NOW to decide whether it makes sound, bottom line, sense for Northfield to invite in another 475 acres of industrial. We need to know</p>
<p><strong>* Shooting ourselves in the foot:</strong> How much unrented office space is there in Northfield already? Is this going to become a blighted unfinished industrial park? Are we asking existing capacity to subsidize the very competition that will destroy them (think Target and the downtown).<br />
<strong>* Shooting the taxpayers in the foot:</strong> How much capacity does the current infrastructure have available to allocate to a new office and industrial park? What is the projected use of those resources?</p>
<p><strong> ** Safety center:</strong> Emergency services and the problem the rail line already represents for supporting new expansion south of 19 and west of the blocking railline? What is the current response time to StOlaf? Do we already have a problem? Would going north to get across the railroad, then south to get to Armstrong be unsupportable? Malt-O-Meal is almost as far and we have not worried about it (at least not publically).<br />
<strong> ** Utilities:</strong> Sewer treatment, water and electricity/gas. Offices and industrial (at least transmodal sites and warehouses) are usually low consumers of water and sewer. Electricity is magic, we don&#8217;t even ASK where it is coming from. And gas, well we don&#8217;t have to worry about transiting the Ukraine like Europe does (how&#8217;s that for a catchy phrase? &#8220;<em>Northfield, where your natural gas does not transit from unstable powers through former satellites!</em>&#8220;)</p>
<p><strong>* Protecting our legacy:</strong> How much leverage do we have to ensure that the creek is protected? Do we have a temperature-turbidity-phosphorous inventory and can we ensure that the new development will maintain or improve on that situation?</p>
<p>Lots of questions, we can start now to look for the city and the land owner&#8217;s answers, and build a good case for or against the annexation. Tom Neuville (when he was a state senator) assured me that just because a city annexes land, they are not promising to deliver services, but it is much easier (I would contend) to leave them rural and avoid the question. </p>
<p>Bring your ideas, we may talk about setting up our very own website for this discussion &#8230;<code></code></p>
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		<title>Comment on Operation Sealion (4 May 2008) by Where next? Hot, flat and crowded &#8230; next P&#38;aP (16 Nov 2008) &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</title>
		<link>http://politicsandapint.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/operation-overlord-next-at-politics-and-a-pint-4-may-2008/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Where next? Hot, flat and crowded &#8230; next P&#38;aP (16 Nov 2008) &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Operation Sealion (4 May 2008). Is Northfield sustainable (yet)? [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Peeking at peak oil (6 Apr 2008) by Where next? Hot, flat and crowded &#8230; &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</title>
		<link>http://politicsandapint.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/peeking-at-peak-oil-next-at-politics-and-a-pint-6-apr-2008/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Where next? Hot, flat and crowded &#8230; &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Peeking at peak oil (8 Apri 2008). [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Too big to fail?  Next Politics and a Pint (21 Sep 2008) by BruceWMorlan</title>
		<link>http://politicsandapint.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/too-big-to-fail-next-politics-and-a-pint-21-sep-2008/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>BruceWMorlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a bug in my ear and felt I had to send the following to at least one of the Minnesota senators.  
&lt;blockquote&gt;The &lt;strong&gt;Great Depression Scare of 2008&lt;/strong&gt; suggests that even the most raging free-market types (and I am one) need to reconsider government policies in light of the reality that we are just not willing to let some businesses fail.  IF A BUSINESS IS TOO BIG TO FAIL, IT IS TOO BIG TO PLAY CASINO WITH OTHER PEOPLE&#039;S MONEY. Especially the taxpayers&#039; money. 

Short and medium term speculation does not serve the entrepreneur well, it does not serve Adam Smith&#039;s &quot;invisible hand&quot; that we claim to rely on to solve economic riddles through market forces. And it is Adam Smith&#039;s invisible hand that we are trying to nurture with our free markets, not speculators.  

&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a bug in my ear and felt I had to send the following to at least one of the Minnesota senators.  </p>
<blockquote><p>The <strong>Great Depression Scare of 2008</strong> suggests that even the most raging free-market types (and I am one) need to reconsider government policies in light of the reality that we are just not willing to let some businesses fail.  IF A BUSINESS IS TOO BIG TO FAIL, IT IS TOO BIG TO PLAY CASINO WITH OTHER PEOPLE&#8217;S MONEY. Especially the taxpayers&#8217; money. </p>
<p>Short and medium term speculation does not serve the entrepreneur well, it does not serve Adam Smith&#8217;s &#8220;invisible hand&#8221; that we claim to rely on to solve economic riddles through market forces. And it is Adam Smith&#8217;s invisible hand that we are trying to nurture with our free markets, not speculators.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Operation Sealion (4 May 2008) by We have winners … now what? (14 Sep 2008) &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</title>
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		<dc:creator>We have winners … now what? (14 Sep 2008) &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Operation Sealion (4 May 2008) - the great land grab [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Operation Sealion (4 May 2008) by The Contented Cow &#187; We have winners &#8230; now what? (14 Sep 2008)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Contented Cow &#187; We have winners &#8230; now what? (14 Sep 2008)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Operation Sealion (4 May 2008) - the great land grab [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Adam Smith&#8217;s Invisible Fist (27 Jan 2008) by The Contented Cow &#187; “Dicing with Death” … next Politics and a Pint (24 Aug 2008)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Contented Cow &#187; “Dicing with Death” … next Politics and a Pint (24 Aug 2008)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the market forces that we (in the USA) believe give the optimal solutions to such problems via “Adam Smith’s Invisible Fist“. Some people would like to set up things to make market forces work on the doctor, some to work [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the market forces that we (in the USA) believe give the optimal solutions to such problems via “Adam Smith’s Invisible Fist“. Some people would like to set up things to make market forces work on the doctor, some to work [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adam Smith&#8217;s Invisible Fist (27 Jan 2008) by &#8220;Dicing with Death&#8221; &#8230; next Politics and a Pint (24 Aug 2008) &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Dicing with Death&#8221; &#8230; next Politics and a Pint (24 Aug 2008) &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] market forces that we (in the USA) believe give the optimal solutions to such problems via &#8220;Adam Smith&#8217;s Invisible Fist&#8220;. Some people would like to set up things to make market forces work on the doctor, some to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] market forces that we (in the USA) believe give the optimal solutions to such problems via &#8220;Adam Smith&#8217;s Invisible Fist&#8220;. Some people would like to set up things to make market forces work on the doctor, some to [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unintended consequences (17 Feb 2008) by The Contented Cow &#187; ArtSwirl … next at Politics and a Pint (10 Aug 2008)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Contented Cow &#187; ArtSwirl … next at Politics and a Pint (10 Aug 2008)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unintended Consequences - a former topic at P&amp;aP [...]</description>
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